{"topic":{"id":7832,"title":"如何低成本使用 chatGPT4","slug":"topic","userId":1306,"categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2023-12-13 11:50:00.873213","bumpedAt":"2023-12-17 13:59:02.974014","views":540,"postsCount":16,"highestPostNumber":16,"likeCount":0,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"请问如何低成本使用 AI? chatGPT3.5 有点蠢；开通 chatGPT4.0 一个月 20 刀，有点贵；使用第三方网站怕充值后跑路。百度的文心一言 3.5 也是智障，4.0 也不便宜。目前还能用谷歌的 bard，感觉也还行，但并不惊艳。主要是谷歌对 ip 的要求比较低，而 ChatGPT 经常封禁各种机场的 ip。所以各位有什么推荐吗？谢谢。","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":1306,"username":"KnownCircle","name":"Known Circle","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/1e/33/1e33c2dacf1c7dd0a03d68452d9e955e1616af4dd9582fe713a709207dcc6e9e.avif"},"realAuthor":{"id":1306,"username":"KnownCircle","name":"Known Circle","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/1e/33/1e33c2dacf1c7dd0a03d68452d9e955e1616af4dd9582fe713a709207dcc6e9e.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":19249,"postNumber":1,"raw":"请问如何低成本使用 AI?\nchatGPT3.5 有点蠢；开通 chatGPT4.0 一个月 20 刀，有点贵；使用第三方网站怕充值后跑路。\n百度的文心一言 3.5 也是智障，4.0 也不便宜。\n目前还能用谷歌的 bard，感觉也还行，但并不惊艳。主要是谷歌对 ip 的要求比较低，而 ChatGPT 经常封禁各种机场的 ip。\n所以各位有什么推荐吗？谢谢。","cooked":"

请问如何低成本使用 AI?
\nchatGPT3.5 有点蠢；开通 chatGPT4.0 一个月 20 刀，有点贵；使用第三方网站怕充值后跑路。
\n百度的文心一言 3.5 也是智障，4.0 也不便宜。
\n目前还能用谷歌的 bard，感觉也还行，但并不惊艳。主要是谷歌对 ip 的要求比较低，而 ChatGPT 经常封禁各种机场的 ip。
\n所以各位有什么推荐吗？谢谢。

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推荐你用右下角悬浮按钮胶带門 aibot @aibot

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Sure, @KnownCircle, you might want to consider using the Right-Bottom Float Button Tape Door AIbot, also known as '@aibot_old', as suggested by an anonymous user. It could potentially be a more affordable AI solution for your needs.

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Bing chat is all you need

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有一个像我一样大方的朋友

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感觉 3.5 和 4.0 在很多常见任务表现差不多吧

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想办法搞点钱

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只看常见任务指标的话，gpt 还不如很多垃圾模型

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而 ChatGPT 经常封禁各种机场的 ip。
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我的机场有专门的 ChatGPT 线，是实测过可以用的那些
\n就是延迟一般 600+ms

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我说的是个人体验很多时候 3.5 和 4.0 没啥区别，不是各种指标

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ChatGPT 经常封禁各种机场的 ip
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用 TAG 机场，基本都是原生 IP，不会被封。

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