{"topic":{"id":13714,"title":"关于网站腾讯标记危险网站这件事情","slug":"topic","userId":5151,"categoryId":4,"createdAt":"2024-10-18 16:47:27.462375","bumpedAt":"2024-10-24 02:34:05.925501","views":371,"postsCount":11,"highestPostNumber":11,"likeCount":17,"closed":false,"pinned":false,"pinnedGlobally":false,"pinnedAt":null,"pinnedUntil":null,"isBanner":false,"excerpt":"先说结论，直接使用 QQ 或者微信打开多了就会出现这种现象我自己有一个域名这个域名完完整整走过工信部和公安备案，服务器在北京阿里云，使用了腾讯云的 CDN 可是还是会被爆出显示危险网站之后我老老实实按照它说的，去申请，提交身份证还有邮箱、号码以及工信部备案号过了十分钟给我发邮件说解除了 😇 我还有一个域名，没有进行过备案，也没有任何有害内容，结果还是被爆危险网站所以我觉得腾讯的逻辑就是这个网站只要使用微信或者 QQ 打开次数…","deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"isPrivate":false,"isMembersOnly":false,"category":{"id":4,"name":"谈笑风生","slug":"general","color":"25AAE2"},"author":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif"},"realAuthor":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif"},"tags":[]},"posts":[{"id":41772,"postNumber":1,"raw":"先说结论，直接使用 QQ 或者微信打开多了就会出现这种现象\n我自己有一个域名\n这个域名完完整整走过工信部和公安备案，服务器在北京阿里云，使用了腾讯云的 CDN\n可是还是会被爆出显示危险网站\n之后我老老实实按照它说的，去申请，提交身份证还有邮箱、号码以及工信部备案号\n过了十分钟给我发邮件说解除了 :halo:\n\n![image|690x263](/uploads/image/35/63/3563b660c52a2237f92c4643432e25a5716798a6025adb85037e7801ca0b2902.avif)\n\n我还有一个域名，没有进行过备案，也没有任何有害内容，结果还是被爆危险网站\n\n所以我觉得腾讯的逻辑就是这个网站只要使用微信或者 QQ 打开次数过多，自动标记，甚至不会检查是否真的备案过或者存在有害内容，等着有人来“认领”才审查解封\n\n至于解决方法呢？第一就是老老实实提交个人信息进行审核；第二就是减少或者不要在微信或者 QQ 中直接打开；第三就是别管，虽然看着会很不舒服\n\nhttps://urlsec.qq.com/check.html?url=xjtu.men\n![image|624x499](/uploads/image/7f/58/7f589440e43775f6510bc99f6a6c72c358f85672d04906ec823e5220b3f857b8.avif)\n\n我不知道他这所谓“大量用户举报”是真的有人举报还是腾讯自己举报的，我对所谓“大厂”做出这种不负责的判断表示疑问\n\n[spoiler]\n但从更深层次来分析，我觉得腾讯之所以会将其直接标记，可能是他不想承担相应的审核责任，既然你没有备案，也没有申诉，那我就一刀切好了，“错杀一千，不可放过一个”，等你申诉了之后，就算这个网站真的存在问题，那我找当时实名的人就好了\n这样的代价就是用户愿意打开网站的概率会降低，网站的公信度会下降，腾讯作为一个巨无霸公司无一例外的渗透进我们的生活\n[/spoiler]","cooked":"

先说结论，直接使用 QQ 或者微信打开多了就会出现这种现象
\n我自己有一个域名
\n这个域名完完整整走过工信部和公安备案，服务器在北京阿里云，使用了腾讯云的 CDN
\n可是还是会被爆出显示危险网站
\n之后我老老实实按照它说的，去申请，提交身份证还有邮箱、号码以及工信部备案号
\n过了十分钟给我发邮件说解除了 😇

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我还有一个域名，没有进行过备案，也没有任何有害内容，结果还是被爆危险网站

所以我觉得腾讯的逻辑就是这个网站只要使用微信或者 QQ 打开次数过多，自动标记，甚至不会检查是否真的备案过或者存在有害内容，等着有人来“认领”才审查解封

至于解决方法呢？第一就是老老实实提交个人信息进行审核；第二就是减少或者不要在微信或者 QQ 中直接打开；第三就是别管，虽然看着会很不舒服

\n\n![image|624x499](/uploads/image/7f/58/7f589440e43775f6510bc99f6a6c72c358f85672d04906ec823e5220b3f857b8.avif)\n

我不知道他这所谓“大量用户举报”是真的有人举报还是腾讯自己举报的，我对所谓“大厂”做出这种不负责的判断表示疑问

但从更深层次来分析，我觉得腾讯之所以会将其直接标记，可能是他不想承担相应的审核责任，既然你没有备案，也没有申诉，那我就一刀切好了，“错杀一千，不可放过一个”，等你申诉了之后，就算这个网站真的存在问题，那我找当时实名的人就好了
\n这样的代价就是用户愿意打开网站的概率会降低，网站的公信度会下降，腾讯作为一个巨无霸公司无一例外的渗透进我们的生活

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":41773,"postNumber":2,"raw":"确实，隔壁的瓜大萌也是这样。\n\n感觉生活已经被这些互联网寡头把控了（悲）","cooked":"

确实，隔壁的瓜大萌也是这样。

感觉生活已经被这些互联网寡头把控了（悲）

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-18 17:36:28.460551","updatedAt":"2024-10-18 17:36:28.460551","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":0,"wordCount":34,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f7/1b/f71bbda87a32de08df517fe7ee4a14e3f63bfd1b2105d3ddb8ba1f4c2eaa1c29.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"[right]——發自我的手機[/right]","signatureCooked":"

——發自我的手機

"}},{"id":41774,"postNumber":3,"raw":"大厂想形成自己的生态和圈子吧\n我一直很崇尚 web，我寻思为什么能用浏览器实现的非要安装一个破软件\n但是转念一想，web 是开放的，对于腾讯这种巨头，他们开发小程序这种不就希望闭源吗？把所有的信息都留存到自己的平台上，别人获取不到\n哎，我发现自己也离不开微信了（悲！\n![image|568x499](/uploads/image/11/20/1120b5cbc671c0ee8031b3e8fe097f787de27adcb3e8fbf300c4a95b8f25c90b.avif)","cooked":"

大厂想形成自己的生态和圈子吧
\n我一直很崇尚 web，我寻思为什么能用浏览器实现的非要安装一个破软件
\n但是转念一想，web 是开放的，对于腾讯这种巨头，他们开发小程序这种不就希望闭源吗？把所有的信息都留存到自己的平台上，别人获取不到
\n哎，我发现自己也离不开微信了（悲！
\n $\"image\"$

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-18 17:40:13.445424","updatedAt":"2024-10-18 17:40:13.445424","replyToPostNumber":2,"replyCount":3,"likeCount":3,"wordCount":123,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":3,"users":[{"id":1411,"username":"lwe","name":null},{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"},{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":41775,"postNumber":4,"raw":"是这样的，所以我也在强制自己避免社交平台单一化，多在论坛水一水，当然可以的话肯定还是线下见见面","cooked":"

是这样的，所以我也在强制自己避免社交平台单一化，多在论坛水一水，当然可以的话肯定还是线下见见面

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-18 17:42:10.104108","updatedAt":"2024-10-18 17:42:10.104108","replyToPostNumber":3,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":47,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"🐈️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/f7/1b/f71bbda87a32de08df517fe7ee4a14e3f63bfd1b2105d3ddb8ba1f4c2eaa1c29.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"[right]——發自我的手機[/right]","signatureCooked":"

——發自我的手機

"}},{"id":41776,"postNumber":5,"raw":"[quote=\"可樂不是真樂，post:1, topic:13714, username:Aicnal\"]\n“大量用户举报”\n[/quote]\n\n交大门这个其实还好，另外一个学生论坛\nhttps://know-cnu.wiki 直接被标注为\n![image|564x500](/uploads/image/2c/6e/2c6e105294d38fad6db3c2c6bd1b1613d0f859774054af5923811001be30111e.avif)\n但凡正儿八经访问过就知道这个是个啥","cooked":"

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t可樂不是真樂，post:1, topic:13714, username:Aicnal:\n\t\t\t\t\t\t

\n\t\t\t\t\t

\n
“大量用户举报”
\n

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交大门这个其实还好，另外一个学生论坛
\nhttps://know-cnu.wiki 直接被标注为
\n $\"image\"$
\n但凡正儿八经访问过就知道这个是个啥

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-18 17:43:56.77685","updatedAt":"2024-10-18 17:43:56.77685","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":2,"wordCount":62,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"🤣️","count":2,"users":[{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"},{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":2,"users":[{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"},{"id":5905,"username":"PipaQinse233","name":"PipaQinse233"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":41777,"postNumber":6,"raw":"[quote=\"可樂不是真樂，post:3, topic:13714, username:Aicnal\"]\n哎，我发现自己也离不开微信了（悲！\n[/quote]\n\n但其实我也尝试过 matrix 之类的东西\n但是无奈微信实在太普及了 :halo:\n我又不可能让所有人都来用我的家服务器\n遂卒","cooked":"

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t可樂不是真樂，post:3, topic:13714, username:Aicnal:\n\t\t\t\t\t\t

\n\t\t\t\t\t

\n
哎，我发现自己也离不开微信了（悲！
\n

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但其实我也尝试过 matrix 之类的东西
\n但是无奈微信实在太普及了 😇
\n我又不可能让所有人都来用我的家服务器
\n遂卒

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-18 17:45:40.932479","updatedAt":"2024-10-18 17:45:40.932479","replyToPostNumber":3,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":75,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/9d/e5/9de500d3afb55c0fe71e319832f2af75532222efe94bd3de9aea21f0f5c55707.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！","signatureCooked":"

ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

\n"}},{"id":41779,"postNumber":7,"raw":"see also \nhttps://xjtu.app/t/topic/1477","cooked":"

see also

\n $\"anonymous_coward_old\"$ \n anonymous_coward_old — #1 in 关于 xjtu.app 被 Tencent 认定为危险网站的声明\n

之前有門友反馈 xjtu.app 被腾讯软件认定为“危险网站”。这方面可以看看使用 VirusTotal进行病毒扫描的结果。

另一方面，是不是危险网站，直观上也能有个初步判断。是哪些网站/APP 广告连天、自动跳转到令人不适的网站、在后台自动下载吸流量，相信門友心里也都清楚。

如果你的浏览器使用 UBlock Orign 插件，你会发现没有广告可屏蔽。如果你用 Privacy Badger，你会发现没有任何第三方跟踪，连 Google Analytics 都没有。

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腾讯没有资格在交大門面前说，你们从实力地位出发说交大門是一个危险网站。
\n

后面我也许会以其人之道还治其人之身，将这里所有指向腾讯服务的链接也给标记一下。让我们拭目以待。

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$\"aaa\"$

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终于找到和我一样反感小程序的了，明明 web 都能做的事，非要搞个小程序

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-24 00:14:43.666681","updatedAt":"2024-10-24 00:14:43.666681","replyToPostNumber":3,"replyCount":0,"likeCount":2,"wordCount":32,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"🤗️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":2,"users":[{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"},{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":41992,"postNumber":9,"raw":"再说个幽默的事，纯文本内容（非 url）的二维码，qq 直接禁止扫描，大概是因为没有内容审查😎","cooked":"

再说个幽默的事，纯文本内容（非 url）的二维码，qq 直接禁止扫描，大概是因为没有内容审查😎

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-24 00:16:54.567187","updatedAt":"2024-10-24 00:16:54.567187","replyToPostNumber":null,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":2,"wordCount":40,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"mingyao","count":2,"users":[{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"},{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":2,"users":[{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家"},{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":4668,"username":"IO","name":null,"avatarUrl":null,"admin":true,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":"","signatureCooked":null}},{"id":42000,"postNumber":10,"raw":"反正现在我看到二维码，除非明显带微信/支付宝等 app 特征，我都是优先拿 iOS 系统自带的 Code Scanner 去扫描的 :laughing: \n真不明白为啥网页能搞定的非得走 app，多耗点电然后能多收集点我的个人信息？","cooked":"

反正现在我看到二维码，除非明显带微信/支付宝等 app 特征，我都是优先拿 iOS 系统自带的 Code Scanner 去扫描的 😆
\n真不明白为啥网页能搞定的非得走 app，多耗点电然后能多收集点我的个人信息？

\n","createdAt":"2024-10-24 02:32:55.226754","updatedAt":"2024-10-24 02:32:55.226754","replyToPostNumber":9,"replyCount":1,"likeCount":1,"wordCount":80,"liked":false,"bookmarked":false,"polls":[],"reactions":[{"reaction":"wave_gif","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false},{"reaction":"❤️","count":1,"users":[{"id":5151,"username":"Soyo34325","name":"Soyo34325"}],"hasReacted":false}],"wiki":false,"version":1,"publicVersion":1,"deletedAt":null,"isAnonymous":false,"user":{"id":1835,"username":"Dusk","name":"夕大画家","avatarUrl":"/uploads/image/43/a8/43a86f758cfb25e3fb96db731cc79af62ce007e0b24595de1258d3d428a65ca3.avif","admin":false,"moderator":false,"signatureRaw":null,"signatureCooked":null}},{"id":42001,"postNumber":11,"raw":"[quote=\"夕大画家, post:10, topic:13714, username:Dusk\"]\n拿 iOS 系统自带的 Code Scanner\n[/quote]\n\n这个我使用频率还挺小的，有机会多用用这个\n反正腾讯家的东西多多少少都沾点不好用 :grinning_face_with_sweat:","cooked":"

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t夕大画家:\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t

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拿 iOS 系统自带的 Code Scanner
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这个我使用频率还挺小的，有机会多用用这个
\n反正腾讯家的东西多多少少都沾点不好用 😅

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ぜーんぶ弾けなーい！

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